Young family looking to shift & settle in Uttranchal - seek your advice
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#1726
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Originally posted by: Hashy View Post

SRB et al - Winters in the hills are indeed harsh, but you can take off the edge by using a rocket stove - much better than a conventional fireplace or bukhari. ... Paleface had earlier spoken at length about Rocket Mass Heater on this thread - problem with it being an elaborate DIY and the space reqd in the room.
Rocket stoves are no doubt very good. On the whole the idea is about burning sticks and small pieces of wood. All well and good but you'd be constantly having to feed it.

Bukhari's are also fine, but not very sophisticated although my Mussoorie made one was heavy steel gauge but with no window, it burnt well but again a lot of work and door opening to see what's going on inside.

Finally I went for an Aussie manufactured import which design has been refined over years and is simply a brilliant burner with control to simmer down the burning once it is well alight, plus a huge window. Slow burn and much less fuel consumption.

I've also now planted a small stand of Eucalyptus for hardwood harvesting every so often.
#1727
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Thx paleface. Can you provide a link to the Aussie import you've referenced?
#1728
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Originally posted by: jituyadav View Post

These stoves have two major differences from usual three stone stoves, first, the air move through burning wood that preheats it and results in better combustion, second, there is a chamber that absorbs heat from the exhaust so that there is very little heat loss via duct. That is it.

The dual combustion is nothing but providing some air inlet just ahead of burning wood where due to oxygen depletion, the process of burning slows down significantly. As more oxygen is available, the unburnt matter in form of soot etc gets burned completely.


Let me add: Rocket Stoves use "pyrolysis." It's a hotter flame with less fuel. The burner soon yields a blue flame like an LP stove. You can cook dinner on a pocket full of pistachio hulls. (One model, Biolite, comes with a USB socket to power your laptop or phone while dinner cooks, with a thermocoupler.) An added benefit of pyrolysis: the residue of your fuel becomes biochar, which you bury, thus creating a carbon-negative camping experience while enriching the soil. There are rocket stove kits for backpackers that are put together just before use, using a discarded beer can as part of the combustion chamber.
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#1729
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Originally posted by: Hashy View Post

Thx paleface. Can you provide a link to the Aussie import you've referenced?
The model I bought is called the Tempo LE, manufactured by Kemlan Aus. This is a pic of it although I did not buy from this company but from a Delhi entity representing them, and mine is all black. If your seriously interested then I can give you the direct contact to Daniel, their man in Delhi. 10% discount will apply however it will be well over a Lakh once you get a stainless steel flue (15 yr warranty) etc...

The air wash across the front glass is really good as the air intake comes from vents above and on the sides. Damping this with a slider obviously decreases air flow for the slow burn mode; it also means you can open the slider and increase air flow to reignite the contents prior to reloading more wood. Now if anyone has experience of such fire boxes you'll know that door opening on smouldering wood will vent plenty of smoke in the room during the reload time.

There are firebricks in the base and though I leave in it around an inch of ash and embers, this is usually still very warm when coming to the next evening's ignition.

The main reasons I went for this are that I am a slave to the other types of fires: You have to constantly feed them;
Slow burn mode is usually unavailable.
Less fuel consumption.
A window is essential to see what's going on inside.
Better vent and damping controls mean it rarely extinguishes.
AND all that means I have to open the door less and thus have less smoke in the closed room.

Fuel, and having enough all winter long, which can mean early November through to end March, is always going to be challenging. I mean we can't at all go around chopping. Lopping is a good source and as I said I've planted hard wood Eucalyptus now for years forward. I'm a much happier bunny about the winter warmth thing nowadays.




https://www.randallheating.com/wood-f/s-tempo-le-3
#1730
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Paleface, I am tired of air conditioners which these days do not have exhaust. Wish that we had installed a cooler system in our house with pipes bringing cool air to all rooms {pipes for exhaust too). Rotary fans would have eliminated the need for ceiling fans.
Truly that Dharma is the Truth (Satya); Therefore, when a man speaks the Truth, they say, "He speaks the Dharma"; and if he speaks Dharma, they say, "He speaks the Truth!" For both are one. - Brihadaranyak Upanishad
#1731
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Originally posted by: Paleface View Post

If your seriously interested then I can give you the direct contact to Daniel, their man in Delhi. 10% discount will apply however it will be well over a Lakh once you get a stainless steel flue (15 yr warranty) etc...



Yes pls thx!
#1732
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Originally posted by: RRAWAT View Post

After some deliberations I think it would be right now to share the details of my property agent for the benifit of others. I have dealt with 5-6 agents for the last 2 years, but most of them were quite incompetent and unprofessional. However, this one has been very professional right from the beginning and till now I have no reason to doubt his honesty as well.

Still, this is my personal experience and I would suggest all to exercise utmost required caution and diligence in dealing with him or any other agent. Anyone interested in his contact no can PM me.


Dear Mr. Rawat
Please let me know the contact details of your agent. It would be of great help. I just cant find a way to PM you somehow...don't know why i cannot see that option; is it possible to contact you anyway!
#1733
| Humble servant of the self
Two more posts and you will have PM facility.
If you find my posts confrontationist, please bear, I am an old frustrated guy who has nothing better to do than sit on rocking chair and curse the world whole day
#1734
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Originally posted by: jituyadav View Post

Two more posts and you will have PM facility.


Oh ok... thanks for the information.
#1735
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Originally posted by: Aupmanyav View Post

Paleface, I am tired of air conditioners which these days do not have exhaust. Wish that we had installed a cooler system in our house with pipes bringing cool air to all rooms {pipes for exhaust too). Rotary fans would have eliminated the need for ceiling fans.

Same here, I also prefer coolers to AC for this very reason, till the humidity becomes unbearable in rainy season.
I am not perfect !!! So bear with me. I will get quite bearable with time !!;):D;)
#1736
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Originally posted by: bhatv View Post

Oh ok... thanks for the information.

Even a yes/no/ thank you post will do.
I am not perfect !!! So bear with me. I will get quite bearable with time !!;):D;)
#1737
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Originally posted by: RRAWAT View Post

Same here, I also prefer coolers to AC for this very reason, till the humidity becomes unbearable in rainy season.
To avoid excess humidity, we need to use https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evaporative_cooler#Two-stage_evaporative_cooling,_or_indirect-direct, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evaporative_cooler#Indirect_evaporative_cooling.
Truly that Dharma is the Truth (Satya); Therefore, when a man speaks the Truth, they say, "He speaks the Dharma"; and if he speaks Dharma, they say, "He speaks the Truth!" For both are one. - Brihadaranyak Upanishad

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